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753mike

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  1. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    You are being deliberately obtuse .I shall waste no more time trying to justify my comments , no matter what I say , you seem to be bent on being unpleasant .
  2. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    Snide remarks about Father in Birmingham . Not the behaviour of an adult , is it ? Hostile and defensive is obviously what you try to invoke with not just this subject but others . I did not say you were spiteful or indeed motivated by malice--they are your words , eat them . Unfortunately your command of English lets you down somewhat , so perhaps I am being unfair to you when I consider that you are being confrontational .
  3. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    I agree that there is insufficient information to the public at large . The importance of the one ball story can be seen in the post that prompted me to tell it .
  4. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    Hello George , Your quote of my post above---- I meant that the whole thing was a myth , including the autopsy . With regard to your implied dismissal of the Soviet story , I couldn't agree more , their obfuscation about the whole episode has meant that there will never be (or not in my lifetime anyway) any concrete evidence of Hitler's demise , or even if he did actually demise , which is itself in doubt . I believe that under certain rules , the government can withhold data on anything they choose if they invoke the 100 year rule , which in essence means anyone who could be upset by release of such data will be long dead , making release of information a bit less troublesome .
  5. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    Yes Philip , I was referring to your "posting" (more correctly , post) , and you have responded in exactly the way I thought you would . You seem to have completely missed the point . I believe we are all familiar with Hitler's non mythical triumph , and the reason for stating that his jig was in fact a myth . If you read my post about my Dad and Birmingham properly , you will understand (with any luck and a following wind) that its relevance is pretty obvious in the context of the post . By the way , it took you a while to come up with that observation , did you have to read all the posts whilst checking for a suitable comeback ?
  6. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    And what has that got to do with the discussion on Myths ?
  7. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    No , not that film , I meant the straightforward Allied propaganda film of Adolf doing a jig outside the carriage at Compiegne
  8. Why is it that the authors of some of these articles have to stick their own (jaundiced) view of events ? It appears that the author has a downer on Bomber Command , his summary point being____ "Bomber Command’s brute force attacks. Sadly, it was a lesson that Portal, Harris, and their peers were unwilling to learn". Apart from the broad sweep attack on Bomber Command being an insult to the brave crews , 56,000 of whom lost their lives , what the heck was Bomber Command expected to do ? Sit on their asses for five years ? Do try to keep the self promoting nasty comments out of supposed factual stories .
  9. 753mike

    Battle of Omdurman

    How odd that the article today slates the behaviour of the British as a colonial power two centuries back when the USA is doing the same thing today----interfering in other countries' affairs and effectively colonising any country that seems could make a profit for the USA . People in glasshouses ........
  10. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    Hi again Danny , I'm glad you've seen the goose-step one , as you say , it is simply playing with forward/reverse , but still very effective because it looks so funny . You are quite right , the jig dancing was rather more sophisticated . There is another one worth looking out for , a simple short snatch of Herman Goering rubbing his hands in glee and with a greasy smirk , originally in a shot of him and Adolph having a love-in . It is variously shown as him showing his pleasure at Spitfires and Hurricanes getting shot down , bombs raining on London and so on . There's a lot out there , good fun looking for them .
  11. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    In response to my ps above , surprise surprise , the formatting is as I sent it , same as the previous ones which were mucked about .
  12. 753mike

    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    Hello Danny , Yes , I have seen the same film . It is the doctored one and it was used in several films /news stories in WW2 , and still gets a showing as genuine in some of the so-called documentaries which come out on disc or as a programme on TV . The same doctoring team did a very funny one based on film of German troops goose-stepping along some conquered street . The film shows them goose-stepping forward and backward and is very effective , especially given the accompanying sound track . The problem with a lot of these propaganda films is that they are taken as genuine happenings . For example , a famous , recurring bit of propaganda showing a Spitfire attacking an Me110 . Good film , genuine enough , but the Me110 was a captured one being flown from Boscombe Down to check on how best to attack it . Now I know this is going to cause some argument because , again , it has been used so often it seems genuine . However , a genuine attack would almost certainly show the Spitfire's guns firing . So the film is genuine enough but wrongly attributed . It would be interesting to hear from other readers of any such propaganda films being used . I know of several , but will keep off them to give someone else a chance . Have a nice day ! ps . Must see if this gets posted properly formatted
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    Today's Post---myths of WW2

    I notice once again that the format that I used to write the above has been changed , to the detriment of the post . I asked for advice about this before , but none was forthcoming . Silly old bugger should know better , eh ?
  14. It's interesting that the author of today's article trying to debunk myths did not mention certain facts , and got one plain wrong . The "Myth" of Hitler doing a jig . It wasn't a myth , it was a clever bit of film editing by allied propaganda which showed Hitler doing a jig . If you look at the original film , he stamped one foot and slapped his thigh with his gloves . Just one simple movement , but it was edited to produce a film of Hitler doing a jig . The film was taken outside the famous railway carriage after the signing of France's surrender . So it was hardly a myth , it happened on film . I would call it "successful propaganda" . The other myth debunked ? Hitler had only one testicle , the myth originated as a result of his autopsy . No , wrong . When I was a kid there was a lot of allied propaganda in the form of silly poems for kids written and circulated especially to ridicule German leaders---Japan was yet to enter the war---, the little ditty went "Hitler has only got one ball , Goering has two but they are small Himmler is very similar But poor old Goebels has no balls at all ." Circa 1941 onwards . Hitler still very much alive . I can date it to 1941 because I got a slap around the ear on my very first day at school for singing it (in 1941) It is a great pity that other people around my age and older don't answer or comment on the daily articles , there is so much knowledge around which is going to disappear for ever when the memories die with them . The problem is something to do with the attitude of younger people not wanting to hear the sometimes very interesting stories (silly old bugger's off again) . I can give you an example (just a quick one so's not to bore you) . I remember watching my Dad and my brothers digging and lining a pit in the ground of our garden in which to store and hide the explosives my Dad was issued with , his job was to sabotage the armaments machinery he was responsible for as works engineer for a large company in Birmingham . I helped him fill the pit when I was home on leave , which prodded my Dad into telling me more of what he was supposed to do in the event of invasion . Very interesting , try listening to some of the silly old buggers' stories and you may learn a lot of interesting things .
  15. 753mike

    Credit where it is due

    Why is it that this post is presented in a totally different format to the one I used in writing it ? There are breaks where there shouldn't be , new lines where I didn't ask for them and so on . Don't tell me that there is an autocorrect for punctuation (2/10 , see me )
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