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Stephen N Russell

Thompson Submachine Gun, post WW1

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Saw a movie U Cant Win them All set  in 1920s Turkey & the mercenary group used barrel drum Thompson submachine guns in battling Turkish forces.

Did Thompsons fight in Mexican Rev??? Do recall US Marines using them in Cent American wars then too.

Movie is on DVD, stars Tony Curtis & Charles Bronson.

Movie made in 1970, 1971 era.

Only media Tommy Gun gets is the Mob & Cops in the US, never any overseas uses aside US Marines in Central America.

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Use of the Thompson by Turkish forces in the 1920s would have been really odd, so say nothing of the problem of ammunition supply.  The gun was not really ready for manufacture until about 1921, and then was produced under license by the Auto-Ordnance Corporation. It was unknown basically outside of the US until the Marines began to use them in Central America in 1927.  The Germans had the Bergman machine pistol by the end of World War One, and then the Swiss took it over.  That would make much more sense for use in Europe.

That is interesting that Tony Curtis was in the movie, as he also starred in Some Like it Hot, a fictionalized version of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929 in Chicago, where Thompsons were also used.  The submachine gun was viewed for a long time as a gangster and police weapon.  It took the Spanish Civil War and the Russo-Finnish War, with the use by the Finns of the Suomi submachine gun to change that view for all.

 

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On 09/10/2017 at 1:31 AM, Stephen N Russell said:

Saw a movie U Cant Win them All set  in 1920s Turkey & the mercenary group used barrel drum Thompson submachine guns in battling Turkish forces.

Did Thompsons fight in Mexican Rev??? Do recall US Marines using them in Cent American wars then too.

Movie is on DVD, stars Tony Curtis & Charles Bronson.

Movie made in 1970, 1971 era.

Only media Tommy Gun gets is the Mob & Cops in the US, never any overseas uses aside US Marines in Central America.

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The first Thompsons to be issued in the USA were bought for Marines detailed to defend the mail service from armed attack. The Marines retained the guns, and took them off to intervene in tbe affairs of some Central American nation or another. The never paid the Post Office for the firearms which the POST OFFICE had purchased, nor did they return them!

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You might want to check your source on that story about the Marine Corps defending the mail service from armed attack.  It would be illegal under US law to use military personnel in that manner within the US.  That would be the responsibility of the US Marshall service. It would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. 

The Marines did begin to use the Thompson in Nicaragua in 1927-28, and discovered that they made excellent weapons for jungle combat.

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