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George Collins

RE: Operation Barbarossa & Bagging German Army Group Center by Jurgen Shperdhea

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A couple of comments here, particularly on the following passage:

"By now the Germans had advanced nearly 200 miles into the Soviet Union’s territory and they were just a third of the way to Moscow...This strategic operation was launched by the Wehrmacht and commanded by Field Marshal Fedor von Bock, who was the head of Army Group Centre. The plan was to attack from Poland through the Bialystok-Minsk-Smolensk axis towards Moscow."

Jurgen keeps referring to Barbarossa as the operation launched "from Poland" into the Soviet Union's territory, when in fact - particularly as it relates to Army Group Center - it was launched from West Poland into East Poland occupied by RKKA. For example, Bialystok only became 'the Soviet Union's territory' just over 2 years prior to that.

"The casualities were tremendous for the Soviets: 417,729 men. The equipment the Red Army lost was also great, comprising 1,177-1,669 aircraft, 4,799 tanks, and 9,427 guns and mortars. The Germans, on the other hand, lost a comparably small number of 12,157 men, considering that the initial attack started with a total number of 750,000 men. The battle was ferocious for the Soviets and caused them a defeat which made the world think they lost the war."

The description of this battle as "ferocious for the Soviets" will probably change if you add another statistics - namely that the number of Soviet POWs and deserters was in the millions. Hardly a ferocious fighting force, all things considered. I would describe it as a pretty damning evidence of the total command and control collapse. 

Edited by George Collins
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